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Cause and Effect by thefirstfleet Cause and Effect by thefirstfleet
Before you ask: the Bozeman is not bigger than the Enterprise. It's all about perspective...





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Gabrial-Dragon45 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015
If it werent for that darn tractor beam they would have never sustanded that same hit on the nacell. Plus Indeed the Bozeman is not bigger than the Enterprise D since shes only a Soyuze class ship. The Soyuz class is an adapted version of the iconic tmp/DS9/tng mirandas.
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015
Kirk would have ordered a full torpedo spread :D
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Gabrial-Dragon45 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015
xD that would have been hilarious XD.
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Caine001 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Good Episode. You capture it well. Clap 
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014
Thank you very much!
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Caine001 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
you're welcome
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Greyman01 Featured By Owner May 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Hold on, is that the ol' iron Felix!? You can see the additions that it has in the back of the so called "Bozeman"
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner May 29, 2014
Yupp :D
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Greyman01 Featured By Owner May 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
You've lied to us....
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Greyman01 Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Actually, this serves as a bridge between the two universes. The polarisverse and the original.

THE POSSIBILITIES!
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austinthegallade Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014
ITS ALWAYS THE DAMN NACELLE!
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:iconthefirstfleet:
thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2014
:D
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ogrebear Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013
One of the Best TNG episodes- keeping the whole thing fresh after the X or Y trip around the time loop must have been hell for the Writers/Directors!

I read somewhere (TNG Companion?) that they originally wanted a Consititution Class, but the idea was scrapped due to cost.

Great pic as always!
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Seanguy4 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013
Thank you very much!
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Lindale-FF Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I will admit though, I was quite amazed to see Dr. Frasier Crane as the Captain! I know I certainly needed some psychiatrical wisdom after watching this episode! :slow: revision
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013
I have to admit, I don't know who the actor was who played Captain Bateson...
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Lindale-FF Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He is Kelsey Grammer. To understand the Frasier Crane reference, see this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frasier_…
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Nuclear-Fridge Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist

Venting the main shuttle bay... to move a massive pile of metal like 1701-D...:confused:

 

I know that Trek in its various shows has never been very faithful to boring, real-life physics and the like, but... well... given that they had so little time before the impact, Riker's plan wouldn't really have worked.:slow: The 'D' is supposed to weigh in at 6 million metric tonnes.

 

Maybe I'm overthinking this.:shrug:

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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013
I have to admit, I don't know wnough about physics to be able to answer that...
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Nuclear-Fridge Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nor do I, really... but I suppose it's quite mild compared to all the explosions, phaser blasts, and other sound effects we get to hear during Trek space battles. Oh well.
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cuddlesaurus21 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oooh! I actually have seen this episode, believe it or not! :nod: It was one of the others on the "best of TNG" DVD I bought to watch "Relics." I liked Cause and Effect, it was funny in places and really neat... and my almost-immediate head-canon became that Chekov and Uhura were on the Bozeman and got to reunite with Scotty that way for a happier ending. But of course I'm sure the more serious Trek-lore-ists will shoot that theory down. ;) Buuuut anyways. Cool picture as usual! Very good fire/spark/explosion-thingies on the nacelle there. This is quite pretty. :)
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Did you know that they originaly wanted to have Saavik on the bridge of the Bozeman?
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cuddlesaurus21 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, no, I didn't know that! That's awesome! :lol: (And I guess makes my own theory at least a *bit* more plausible.... ;))
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SpiderTrekfan616 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The reason why thy couldn't have Saavik on the bridge is because a) Kirstie Alley wasn't available at the time and b) because it would have caused a continuity error as Saavik couldn't have appeared in Star Trek II Which Takes place in 2284 if she was on the Bozeman when it was lost in 2278.
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CR99nut Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Great render! Both ships look fantastic here, and in fact the Enterprise almost looks like the studio model. Well done!

One nitpick, though... wasn't Bozeman's registry NCC-1941?
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Thank you very much!

The registry is incorrect, but my USS Dzerzhinsky model is standing in here as the Bozeman. 1926 is the year the real-life Iron Felix died, so...
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Kitsunechild Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013
That was a really trippy episode... But the timing was off in the final sequence when they finally moved out of the way...
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013
Hmm, havwe to check that :D
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Kitsunechild Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Notice the amount of time it takes for it all to happen...
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dgspirit1991 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah nothing like old clunkers to stir up trouble :D
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
LOL yeah :D
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Balsavor Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
One of my fav episodes. Very nice.
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Thank you very much!
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SpaceCowboy5000 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Truly outstanding, sir! :clap: Great episode - I could watch it over and over and over ... I betcha Riker putting his foot on Data's console didn't help things either. :o
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Riker's a dick, we all know that :D
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Jimlogan1701 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Excellent, i had an odd feeling the Bozeman would turn up ;-)
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
And here you have it :D
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JamieTakahashi Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh how I always loved this episode haha I'd always use it as an example of Star Trek's treatment of time travel and causality.
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Yeah, it's probably the best time travel episode.
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JamieTakahashi Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, I don't know, depends on how you define that.  Best time travel episode, or best episode featuring time travel.  A lot of people will argue for "City on the Edge of Forever."  Just saying haha
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
"Captain? Have you ever seen an old movie called 'Groundhog Day'...?"
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Worf: I ate a groundhog once :D
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Spydraxis01 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I hate doing perspective shot in space...
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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
They're a bitch...
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Spydraxis01 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
To say the least I usually go for an extreme close up or just rotate to a distant shot. The theatrical angles really just suck without a moving scene.
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dantrekfan48 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah... that was a bad day. Days. How long were they in that loop for again? A couple weeks, a month at most.
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SpiderTrekfan616 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

Lieutenant Johnny Satchel: We were trapped for 17.4 days before we broke the loop.

Here's the version of Johnny that said that spidertrekfan616.deviantart.co…

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thefirstfleet Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
At least...
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wayner8088 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ouch....ouch again....and again...and again...and again....and...oh Data figures it out ;P
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